There are many mysteries about the past
and how we journeyed from the Stone Age to civilisation.
Now there is a controversial new theory.
It claims that historians have ignored evidence of a lost civilisation
of spectacular sophistication,
the key to our past.
If true, this forgotten episode
would overturn all our ideas about the origins of civilisation.
If I'm right and our whole conception of prehistory is wrong,
then the foundations upon which we have built our idea of what our society is
are crumbling.
ATLANTIS REBORN AGAIN
Graham Hancock is determined to rewrite history.
His books about the ancient past have sold in their millions,
making him a leading figure in a group of influential and radical authors.
Hancock has a huge following
who believe passionately in his controversial views
that civilisation was invented by a god-like people
ignored by orthodox historians.
It's possible we may have lost from the record an entire civilisation
and I feel that the evidence for this lost episode in human history
is mounting.
According to orthodox archaeology
various Stone Age peoples slowly evolved complex cultures
in different parts of the world.
13,000 years ago
groups of hunter/gatherers began to settle and to farm.
Over thousands of years they separately developed writing, religions and astronomy.
Eventually they built the great monuments of the Ancient World.
But not everyone was satisfied with the archaeologists' explanation.
For them there was a tantalising mystery.
Ancient people in far-flung parts of the world,
who seemed to have had no contact with each other,
were doing very similar things
building pyramids
and studying the stars.
One explanation for these puzzling resemblances
was the enduring myth of Atlantis.
The story goes that Atlantis was the home of an ancient civilisation
of astonishing sophistication.
When it was destroyed in a flood
its survivors travelled the world
bringing their knowledge to less developed peoples,
but the idea of Atlantis as the cradle of all civilisation
was scorned by historians.
If Atlantis were true, if there was one source
it would be very easy to test archaeologically
and the evidence would be clear.
The fact that it's not clear,
the fact that that kind of evidence is not present
is indicative of the fact that the cultures developed independently
and were not derived from a single source.
Graham Hancock believes that the idea of Atlantis deserves a second chance.
He does not claim to be a scientist,
but he has used science to revive an old idea.
Ten years ago Hancock set out on a quest.
He came back with a radical vision,
one that he hoped would overturn established ideas about the past.
What we're looking at here
is an accumulation of discordant evidence and information
which doesn't quite fit in with the orthodox picture.
Bits and pieces of a jigsaw puzzle
that seem to have been just scattered and thrown all around the world
and yet the feeling that if we can put those pieces together
slowly, methodically, painstakingly
they will show us something that we've forgotten about ourselves,
a great civilisation lost in prehistory.
In his research
Hancock became intrigued by the ideas of writers
who have linked ancient monuments with the stars as they appeared long ago.
Since ancient times people have seen shapes in the stars
and they'd given these constellations names like Aries the Ram, or Orion the Hunter.
Different ancient societies saw different animals and objects in the stars.
The patterns of the constellations don't change,
but the precise angle of groups of stars in relation to the horizon
alters over time.
It's the result of a process called precession.
The earth spins on its axis every 24 hours,
but the axis has a very slow wobble which lasts 26,000 years.
This is precession
and it slowly changes our view of the stars.
It means that their position in the sky
is unique to different moments in time.
Astronomers have calculated the slowly changing position of the stars back in time.
Using an astronomical software programme,
Hancock made an intriguing discovery.
Some of the wonders of the Ancient World
appear to mirror the stars at a precise moment in the past:
10,500BC.
It was a date that was to assume an extraordinary significance for his theory.
Groups of monuments in Egypt and another large group of monuments far away in Cambodia
are copying constellations in the sky as they looked,
not at the time when those monuments were constructed,
but in a much earlier epoch, the epoch of 10,500BC.
In other words,
if looked at from above,
groups of monuments mirrored the unique position of the stars
as they looked at that crucial moment in the past.
For Hancock, the implications were stunning.
We are looking at the vestiges of an ancient world-wide religious system,
a sky ground religion.
The essential thing that it had to do
was to build architectural copies of groups of stars in the sky
and we're looking at the vestiges of that system spread out around the world.
Hancock argued that there had indeed been an ancient lost super-civilisation
destroyed 12,000 years ago.
Its survivors brought civilisation to a Stone Age world
and a map of the sky as it looked in 10,500BC.
It became a blueprint for future generations around the world
who built monuments to mirror these ancient patterns of stars.
Hancock could revive the old idea of Atlantis
with a difference.
I avoid using the word Atlantis in my books
because most people when they hear the word Atlantis
immediately think that they're dealing with the lunatic fringe.
I don't feel that I belong to a lunatic fringe.
When Hancock published his theory in 1995 it caused a sensation.
Five million copies were sold around the world.
The impact of his book
rivalled the spectacular success of Erich von Däniken's Chariots of the Gods
published in the 1970s.
Von Däniken explained the birth of civilisation
as the result of visits from alien astronauts.
Other books by Hancock followed,
every one a best-seller.
His success has been crowned by a major television series
which reached 10 million viewers.
Hancock is now part of a growing movement of radical, alternative historians.
These writers have become hugely influential.
No mainstream archaeologist ever reaches such a wide audience,
but for academics their ideas are heresy.
Certainly one thing that they're doing is selling a lot of books.
There's a long and ignoble history of this sort of thing
and I view it as merely the latest incarnation
of somebody obviously quite fascinated by the past, a populariser of the past,
but someone who doesn't want to adhere to the scientific method.
It is inevitable that this is a threat to orthodox views of the past.
It can't simply be accepted by a historian
that the whole burden of his work over many, many years is wrong.
If Hancock and his fellow authors are right,
we will have to rewrite history.
The only way to find out if they are is to test the theory.
It is Ancient Egypt that provides most of these writers with their key evidence,
in particular the pyramids built 4,500 years ago
on the Giza plateau near modern Cairo.
According to Egyptologists those pyramids are tombs and tombs only.
They have no other function whatsoever
and they were built to serve as the tombs of three Pharaohs of the 4th dynasty
Khufu, Khefren and Menkaure
and that's the end of the story really as far as orthodox Egyptologists are concerned.
I think there's room for a reconsideration of what the pyramids might be
and in order to reconsider that information
I think it's very important that we take astronomy into account.
There's always been a mystery about the three Giza pyramids.
Looked at from above they form a perfect diagonal,
but with the third, smaller pyramid
that is offset.
Many have been baffled by this curious imperfection,
but now there is a new explanation.
Robert Bauval is a former engineer.
He has developed a controversial theory about the Giza pyramids
and it has a crucial role in the evolution of Hancock's theories about a lost civilisation.
In 1982, on his way to Cairo airport,
Bauval flew over these mysterious wonders of the Ancient World.
There was something about the puzzling layout of the pyramids
that began to obsess him.
Now if you can see you have two large pyramids
which are of almost equal size
and along a diagonal line whereas the third pyramid,
the smaller one, of Menkaure,
is offset to the east of this diagonal.
Bauval had an inspiration.
The plan of the three pyramids reminded him of a constellation
Orion the Hunter.
In the middle of the constellation are the three belt stars.
They, too, form a diagonal line with one star offset.
It seemed to be a perfect match for the pyramids.
I observed that the stars had exactly the same pattern as the pyramids on the ground.
You have two bright stars, or two large stars if you like,
and the third one on the top dimmer and offset to the east in exactly the same pattern.
There are, of course, many other stars in Orion,
but it was the three belt stars that led Bauval to make another discovery,
one that linked the pyramids uncannily with that date long in the past.
As a result of precession,
the angle of the three stars changes over time
and Bauval found the best fit on one particular date.
So we have a moving sky over a fixed land,
the pyramids on the ground,
and when you move that sky in time to fit the patterns of Orion
you get that lock in 10,500BC.
Hancock was impressed by Bauval's theory
and the way it linked Ancient Egypt
with an even more ancient date.
The whole arrangement freezes the time of 10,500BC.
In his television series Hancock showed how Bauval's idea works.
The pyramids form a precise 45 degree angle with a line running north/south
and the three stars form the same exact angle in the sky on only one date:
10,500BC.
For Hancock, Bauval's findings seemed like compelling evidence for a lost civilisation.
I accept Egyptological opinion the great pyramids were built in 2,500BC.
I am not saying that the pyramids were built earlier than that.
What I'm saying is that they were built in 2,500BC
but designed to commemorate architecturally, symbolically and astronomically
an earlier epoch.
If Bauval and Hancock are right
the implications are astounding.
It means that Ancient Egyptian civilisation
was inherited from a lost people
unknown to any mainstream historian.
One astronomer took a keen interest in Bauval's theory
Ed Krupp.
He quickly became troubled by Bauval's claims.
When The Orion Mystery came out my curiosity was naturally aroused.
Anybody comes up with a good idea about ancient astronomy
I want to know about it
and in going through the book there was something nagging.
In The Orion Mystery there's a nice double page spread
and anybody looking at this would say ah, Giza pyramids, belt of Orion,
one kind of looks like the other, you know you've got three in a row, three in a row,
slanted, slanted, we've got a map
and what I was bothered by turned out to be really pretty obvious.
In the back of my head I knew that something was wrong with these pictures
and what's wrong with these pictures in their presentation
is that north for the constellation Orion is here at the top of the page.
North for the Giza pyramids is down here.
Now they're not marked, but I knew which way north was at Giza
and I knew which way north was in Orion.
To make the map of the pyramids on the ground
match the stars of Orion in the sky you have to turn Egypt upside down
and if you don't want to do that then you've got to turn the sky upside down.
But Hancock and Bauval reject Krupp's analysis.
They point out that Orion can only be seen by looking in a southward direction.
So you're looking south of correlation
and for the natural tendency is to draw what you see in that direction
and you would come up with looking at three stars in that pattern
and three dots, or three pyramids, or three marks in the same direction.
If you choose a time when Orion is at its highest point in the sky
looking south high over the pyramids there is an apparent match
and Bauval and Hancock's view seems convincing.
There's no other way you can draw them
except in the way that the pyramids lie on the ground today.
You can't do it in any other way.
If you're extremely pedantic
and believe that the Ancient Egyptians' priesthood
was a group of narrow-minded bureaucrats
determined to follow procedure above all else
then it's true that the northern most star is depicted in the southern most place on the ground
and the southern most star in the northern most place on the ground
and this is what Ed Krupp is getting at,
but if you regard it as a work of symbolic and religious art
meant to copy on the ground what the observer sees in the sky
then there's just no other way you can make it than the way it is made.
But there's evidence that the Egyptians may well have seen it another way;
perceiving the sky as forming a canopy over their heads,
with north in the sky matching north on the ground,
and the top of Orion thus pointing north.
The pyramids are set out facing precisely north, south, east and west
and research suggests they were aligned using the north polar stars
and also there are shafts built through the north and south sides of the great pyramid
which point directly to stars in the north and south of the sky
indicating that the Egyptians clearly linked directions on the ground and in the sky.
That locks the pyramids north side and south side to the north side of the sky
and the south side of the sky.
That means the Egyptians, in building and laying out the pyramids,
said we know where north is and we care about it
because we've incorporated it into the architecture.
The Egyptians were perfectly capable of drawing the pyramids right if they wanted to.
If they wanted Orion's belt to look like Orion's belt on the ground
and match up with the north and south sides of the pyramid
they could have done that.
But whether or not the Egyptians cared about
matching north and south in the sky and on the ground
there are other problems.
There are 13 other stars in Orion.
None of them match pyramids.
There are over 75 other pyramids in Egypt
and among them all there are no convincing matches with stars,
but Hancock and Bauval still stand by their theory.
I don't need every pyramid in Egypt to map a star in the sky.
The people who built these monuments
were making a grand symbolic statement
that was supposed to be understood on an intuitive and spiritual level.
It is hard to invest a lot of intellectual effort
into three stars in a row and three pyramids on the ground.
That's like a simple configuration
and it's very easy to find three things in a row
and if, if you know there are roughly 81 or so pyramids in Egypt
well yeah if all 81 of 'em mapped the sky perfectly I'd be impressed,
but if three of them mapped the sky sorta I'm not impressed.
There's more.
Astronomer Anthony Fairall has re-examined that precise 45 degree angle
that seemed to link the pyramids with the belt stars
as they were in 10,500BC.
Fairall found that the match was not as precise as originally claimed.
The angle formed by the two large pyramids is 45 degrees,
but the angle formed by the Belt stars is 54.
Hancock and Bauval dispute the large size of Fairall's angle,
but accept there is a discrepancy.
No they're not absolutely correct and I don't care.
I have to stress that in my view the Ancient Egyptian priesthood
was not staffed by anal-retentive bureaucrats.
The Ancient Egyptian priesthood was a group of creative and imaginative thinkers
who were exploring the mystery of life and death
and who believed that there was a connection between ground and sky.
They wanted to make a resemblance on the ground of a particular moment in time.
There is a simple explanation
for the way the pyramids were laid out along that diagonal line 4,500 years ago
and it has nothing to do with Orion.
Kate Spence is an Egyptologist.
She's studied the historical sequence of quarrying and construction on the Giza plateau in 2,500BC.
The interior blocks of the pyramids
were extracted from quarries on the plateau itself.
The bases of the blocks can still be seen today.
It turns out that the choices of the pyramid builders
were severely limited by the site they had chosen to build on.
It's entirely possible to explain the position of the pyramids relative to each other
just through the geology of the site and the nature of the pyramids themselves.
If we look at a map of the pyramids
which shows the contour lines you can actually see it quite clearly.
These are the pyramids, the Khufu pyramid, Khefren and Menkaure
and they're built on a ridge which runs diagonally.
The reason they're set obliquely to the ridge
is because they're aligned so carefully towards north,
so this is the first pyramid to be built, the Khufu pyramid
and when Khefren came along to build his he couldn't build it in a straight line
because there's a quarry here and it's very steeply sloping.
So he had to set the pyramid back,
for two reasons, both so that it was on a reasonably high level
and also so that he could get a clear view of north for the alignment,
and exactly the same thing happened when Menkaure came to build his.
It's actually set back from the line of the Khefren pyramid
because if you see here the contours are very close so it's quite steep,
so it's set on a level plateau at about the same height as the Khefren pyramid
and with a clear view towards north.
It seems clear that as the Egyptian kings built their monuments across the Giza plateau
the decisions they made about the position of the pyramids
were not inspired by a pattern of stars
but were the result of the limitations of the site they chose to build on.
But Graham Hancock's radical theory about the past
does not depend on the Orion theory alone.
He claims to have discovered a global network of ancient monuments,
either mapping constellations on the ground
or linked in other ways to the stars.
He believes that they're all based on a 12,000 year-old blueprint of the night sky.
Far from Egypt
Hancock has discovered other crucial evidence in Cambodia,
at one of the most extraordinary archaeological sites in the world:
the temples of Angkor Vat.
The temples were built by the Khmer people
3,000 years after the Giza pyramids were built,
but Hancock claims to have found evidence of a more ancient master plan.
There's a similarity, a very strong similarity
between the pattern of the temples on the ground
and the pattern of the stars in the constellation of Draco,
one of the great northern constellations.
Quite simply if you take a map of the temples of Angkor
and join the dots to connect up the different temples
you find that you have drawn out on that map the pattern of the constellation of Draco.
As Hancock shows in his television series,
it does seem as if the temples at Angkor are a genuine mirror of the stars
mapped out by the lost civilisation,
and that wasn't all.
The temples of Angkor also seemed to be connected with that momentous date:
10,500BC
as a result of precession.
I found extraordinarily
that the correlation becomes as close as possible to perfect only at one date,
and that is 10,500BC.
In his television series,
Hancock refers to the work of one of the world's leading experts on Angkor,
Eleanor Mannikka.
She has spent 20 years surveying and mapping the temples
and now she's examined Hancock's theory
in detail.
This hypothesis is based on the fact
that certain temples are placed in their position
because they have to follow a pattern that evokes the constellation Draco,
so if we look at this we see the beginning apparently is the head right here at Angkor Vat
and the pattern goes from there up to Phnom Bakheng which is this enormous central mountain.
Then it travels up here to (TEMPLE NAME) Thom
and then it goes over here to (TEMPLE NAME)
and from (TEMPLE NAME) it goes to (TEMPLE NAME).
Then it goes to (TEMPLE NAME), then it goes to (TEMPLE NAME),
out here to (TEMPLE NAME) built in the 12th century.
I see a vague resemblance of course because it goes up and down and off,
but actually the tail of Draco goes way up like this,
it doesn't just go off like that.
When examined closely
the actual match between the temples and the constellation
is not at all precise.
Does Hancock have an answer?
There's a rather good correspondence.
By no means you know absolutely spot-on accurate,
but a rather good correspondence between the stars in the sky
and the temples on the ground
and when you bear in mind that these temples were constructed
across hundreds of square miles of really very dense jungle,
something like 1,000 years ago,
when there was no ability for the builders to get above their subject
and check that they were achieving a perfect design,
I think they did a very good job.
But surveying has never depended on viewing from above.
It's all done by measuring distances and angles on the ground.
Mannikka's investigations show that the Khmers must have been expert surveyors.
Such is the precision of their work
that she is convinced that they could have accurately laid out and built
any pattern they wanted,
and there is good evidence which reveals why the Khmers placed the temples
where they did.
Certain of these temples within this so-called constellation here
are where they are for very clear-cut historical reasons
referred to in inscriptions, very obvious reasons.
For example, (TEMPLE NAME),
which is located here on top of the central hill at Angkor,
had to be the place where the king put his royal temple
because nothing else was so prominent at the site.
Up here at (TEMPLE NAME) there was a very bloody battle around 1190.
That's why (TEMPLE NAME) is here.
It couldn't be anywhere else.
It had to be here 'cos the battle was here.
Mannikka discovered
that the position of every one of the temples included by Hancock
can be explained in similarly well documented ways.
Hancock includes only ten temples in the shape of the constellation Draco,
but investigation of the Angkor region
has revealed that there are more than 60 temples.
It seems arbitrary to use so few out of so many.
The correlation he has found
begins to look more like coincidence than planning.
I'm sure that, that there are academics who can find a dozen reasons
why the resemblance of the temples of Angkor to the pattern of the constellation of Draco
is accidental and a coincidence and can be explained in all sorts of other ways,
but I've put forward my case in as much detail as I can in my work.
I think there is a striking resemblance between the basic pattern on the ground
and the pattern of the constellation in the sky.
But there is a final problem.
Although Hancock believes the Khmer based their cherished temples on the constellation of Draco,
strangely it is not mentioned in any of their inscriptions.
Draco had nothing to do with the culture whatsoever.
I mean there's no reference to the constellation in any inscription,
there's no reference to it whatsoever in any way.
No Draco.
Unfortunately, Ancient Egypt and Cambodia
are Hancock's most important pieces of evidence,
that monuments mirror an ancient blueprint of the stars.
His claim seems flawed
and Horizon has made a discovery which further questions his basic theory.
It links a group of unique monuments with a pattern of stars.
Here are the monuments on the ground looking north.
The pattern matches one of the great constellations:
Leo the Lion.
These are the monuments:
Grand Central Station,
the New York Public Library,
Macey's,
Madison Square Gardens,
the Central Post Office,
a theatre,
a university,
Times Square,
the Rockefeller Centre
and a police station.
The monuments are, of course,
in Manhattan.
The Leo master plan doesn't account for every Manhattan landmark,
but using Hancock's criteria it doesn't have to.
As long as you have enough points
and you don't need to make every point fit,
you can find virtually any pattern you want.
But Hancock does offer other kinds of evidence for his theory.
I'm already convinced about the existence of an ancient worldwide religious system
which must have emanated from a remote, lost source,
but I need to convince others
and the best way to do that
is to produce artefacts and evidence that are 12,000 or so years old
and which, therefore, fall outside of the framework of orthodox history.
There are two far-flung monuments
that Hancock claims were actually built by the people of the lost civilisation.
One is the ancient city of Tiwanaku in Bolivia,
the other is the Egyptian Sphinx.
The Sphinx was carved out of the limestones of the Giza plateau.
Mainstream archaeologists think it was built 4,500 years ago
but Hancock believes it is 12,000 years old.
Some of his evidence is again astronomical.
The constellation Leo rose above the horizon directly east of the Sphinx
in 10,500BC,
but there is no evidence that this constellation was recognised by the Ancient Egyptians,
but Hancock also claims there is geological evidence.
Egypt has had a dry climate since the time the pyramids were built,
but the Sphinx and its surrounding enclosure are deeply eroded.
It has been argued by Hancock and others that the erosion was caused by heavy rainfall
and that this means
the Sphinx must have been carved many thousands of years earlier than we thought,
when the climate was wetter.
But the erosion argument has not stood up to the scrutiny of geologists.
Erosion on the Giza plateau does not depend on water.
The Giza limestones contain salts
and these have proved to cause destructive levels of erosion
in very short periods of time.
There is no hard evidence that the Sphinx is any older than the orthodox date.
Hancock has also focused on another monument
thousands of miles from Egypt,
in South America.
High in the Bolivian Andes lies Lake Titicaca.
Nine miles to the east is one of the most mysterious ruined cities in the world.
It is called Tiwanaku.
Archaeologists think that this was the capital of a South American empire
that began to flourish nearly 2,000 years ago,
but the identity of the people who created Tiwanaku remains a mystery.
Whoever they were, they were superb stone-masons
creating temples and monuments
using immense but precisely carved blocks of stone.
For more than a century
Tiwanaku has attracted fabulous explanations.
As to who would have built Tiwanaku
what we might be talking about is the survivors of the lost civilisation,
people who have moved into the mountains to create a new settlement
to try to preserve something of their culture, something of their tradition,
something of their religious ideas.
For evidence Hancock turned to the writings of Arthur Posnansky,
who thought Tiwanaku was the cradle of ancient American civilisation.
He stumbled on the site at the turn of the century
and became a self-appointed expert.
Posnansky claimed Tiwanaku was an ancient astronomical observatory.
He believed that particular stone blocks had once been positioned to face the sun
as it rose above the horizon at the winter and summer solstices,
but like the constellations,
the position of the solstices changes very slowly over time
and Posnansky found the best match between the stone blocks and the rising sun
12,000 years ago.
Arthur Posnansky, who is by no means a favourite with orthodox scholars,
but did spend 50 years of his life studying Tiwanaku from the early 1900s up until the 1940s,
made a very strong case that the alignments, the original alignments of Tiwanaku,
had been set out at a time when the rising point of the sun was quite different
from, from where it is today at the winter and summer solstices
and he dated that approximately to about 12,000 years ago.
But how good is the evidence that Hancock relies on?
Has Posnansky's work stood the test of time?
Tiwanaku is in a ruinous state.
Its great blocks lie shattered and fallen.
That's because in the 17th century
the Spanish Conquistadors arrived in this region of the Andes.
They set about destroying this pagan monument.
The Spanish broke up the site,
moved hundreds of blocks
and built a cathedral with them nearby.
No one knows where many of the remaining blocks were originally positioned.
Posnansky could only guess that they might once have been aligned with the rising sun,
yet this was his most important evidence.
Posnansky died in 1948.
That means he missed a revolution in archaeological science,
one that might have changed his mind about the age of the site.
Carbon dating is a method that has provided increasingly reliable dates
for archaeological sites all over the world,
including Tiwanaku.
Carbon dates for the great stone monuments
show they are less than 2,000 years old.
Graham Hancock disputes their age because carbon dating can't date the stone itself,
but only organic remains like bone or charcoal found in association with the stone.
He regards this association as unreliable,
although the method has been tried and tested at sites throughout the world,
and at Tiwanaku archaeologists are confident of the link.
But anyway, here archaeologists have dug deeper than the stone structures.
The earlier signs of any human habitation,
probably a small village,
easily dated from organic remains are just 3,500 years old;
nowhere near 10,500BC.
So how does Hancock deal with this information in his most recent book?
I'm not required to be encyclopaedic.
In Heaven's Mirror there is no representation whatsoever of recent carbon dates for Tiwanaku.
I simply didn't discuss it in there.
There is no hard evidence
that survivors of a lost civilisation built Tiwanaku or the Sphinx 12,000 years ago.
But there is one other way Hancock could change our view of the past
and that is to find the home of the lost civilisation.
It would be the find of the century,
the real Atlantis.
Hancock has made an astonishing suggestion about where it could be:
Antarctica.
He has claimed that Antarctica was once in a warmer region
and home to the lost civilisation.
12,000 years ago, he argued,
a massive shift in the earth's crust thrust Antarctica to the South Pole
where it became ice-bound.
Geologists have studied the history of Antarctica through ice-cores,
some as deep as 3.5 kilometres.
Ice-cores are like tree rings
and they can be used to work out the history of the ice-sheets.
The scientists' work shows clearly
that the ice has been here for over 400,000 years.
It would have been hard to survive here in 10,500BC
let alone create a sophisticated civilisation.
What I've come to realise as my research has gone on
in a sense, is that I don't need Antarctica
and therefore I don't need to propose a radical revolution of geological ideas
in order to explain a lost civilisation.
Hancock now believes we've been looking in the wrong place.
The lost civilisation was underwater all along.
This is the Yonaguni formation.
Discovered in 1987 by a Japanese fisherman
it lies under five metres of water at the end of the Japanese island chain.
It appears to be a series of steps and pyramid-like structures.
Could this be the remains of a city lost 12,000 years ago?
It looks like a monument.
It has very curious features.
It has a series of steps and terraces cut into its side,
it's oriented to the cardinal directions,
it faces due south, it has a deep east/west feature running along in front of it.
It bears all the hallmarks of a designed ceremonial, ritual or religious monument.
Yonaguni looked as if it could be a spectacular discovery
and Hancock needed corroboration.
He invited the Boston University geologist
Robert Schoch to inspect the site.
Professor Schoch has taken a keen interest in unorthodox views of the past
and he welcomed the chance to examine the underwater discovery.
Schoch dived with Hancock several times at Yonaguni.
I went there in this case actually hoping that it was a totally manmade structure
that was now submerged underwater, that dated maybe back to 6,000BC or more.
When I got there and I got to dive on the structure
I have to admit I was very, very disappointed
because I was basically convinced after a few dives
that this was primarily possibly totally a natural structure.
I think that what Robert Schoch needs to do is a lot more diving.
When I took him there in 1997,
September of 1997,
he did four dives at that time
and then he went back again in July of 1998
and did a few more dives.
I really feel that before anybody pronounces definitively on this monument
they should put in a minimum of 50 dives.
Professor Schoch has not changed his mind.
Isolated portions of it look like they're manmade,
but when you look at it in context, you look at the shore features etc
and you see how, in this case,
fine sandstones split along horizontal bedding plains
that gives you these regular features.
I'm convinced it's a natural structure.
Graham Hancock is still scouring the oceans of the world for a lost civilisation.
He has also investigated pyramids
and a giant stone face on the planet Mars,
but he has yet to find firm evidence that there really was a forgotten civilisation
of god-like astronomers 12,000 years ago.
I believe passionately
that the past has been misrepresented
and that people today are not being given the full picture
and I don't think that my arguments are ever going to be successfully destroyed by nit-picking.
After having invested a lot of time
doing what I think very few other people do,
which is saying, OK, you've made this claim, let's see if it holds up.
And so, subjecting it to the rules of evidence
and then coming to a conclusion,
my conclusion is no, I don't think they're right
and I don't think they're right because I don't think the evidence fits the hypothesis.